4.0 install didn't work

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4.0 install didn't work

Postby handes » Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:02 pm

I'm currently using 3.05 and just upgraded to 4.0. Downloaded the software, evereything appearded to install OK, but when I open Outlook 2007 it didn't upgrade.

I'm running Windows XP.
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Postby brad » Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:55 pm

Steve - it sounds like something is holding Outlook open and keeping the upgrade from completing. Try rebooting and reinstalling before you open Outlook for the first time. Please let me know if this resolves your issue.
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Postby handes » Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:39 am

Brad,
I tryed that it didn't work. I did find an addin that wasnt functioning correctly, removed it, the rebooted, reinstalled, and started up outlook. Same results.

I'm running Outlook 2007.
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I managed to install it

Postby anix » Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:18 am

I tried installing over current IMS 3.11 - did not work.
I then removed 3.11 - rebooted - installed 4.0 - opened outlook - and it worked.
(of course - I ensured Outlook was not running during all the steps mentioned above).
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Postby handes » Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:16 am

Anix,
Thanks that worked
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Postby anix » Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:55 am

Brad,
you probably need to post the installation steps on your download site.
Thanks,
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Steps to perform upgrade from v3.1.1 to v4.0?

Postby psale » Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:06 am

I'm glad that I found this thread, but Brad, could you please confirm that this thread does indeed document the "best way" to perform the upgrade from earlier versions of CC to the brand new CC v4?

I just ordered the $29 upgrade to v4 to replace my CC v3.1.1, and I would like very much for the upgrade to go smoothly.
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Postby brad » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:02 pm

All -

We're looking into the issue you are reporting, but after extensive upgrade testing we can't reproduce. It still feels like there is something on your system that is holding Outlook open (an errant process such as an add-in or ActiveSync or something like that) but I have been wrong before...

For the record, the best way to upgrade is to close Outlook and run the installer. If the upgrade doesn't go through, uninstall IMS via the Control Panel and run the install again.

Thanks.
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Postby brad » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:38 pm

One more thing - please post information about your environment if you come across this problem:

IMS version you are upgrading from
Outlook Version
Windows Version
If Vista, UAC on or off?
Mail Access (Exchange, POP)?
PDA or mobile access?


Thanks!
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Postby handes » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:53 pm

Brad,
My guess is that Active Sync was the problem. I didn't even think about that until you mentioned it.
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Postby brad » Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:28 pm

All - an additional update:

I'm reasonably certain the issue is caused by another process holding Outlook open on install; ActiveSync being the primary culprit. Once the issue occurs, uninstalling and reinstalling after a reboot (before you open Outlook and/or insert your PDA) is the best way to upgrade.

All of your user preferences are preserved when you uninstall/reinstall with one caveat. If you initially installed IMS v2 your Topic folder location may be changed from /Inbox/ClearContext Topics/ to /Inbox/. Change it back at ClearContext > Options > Configuration.

Thanks for all the information on this issue!
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Same Problem but remove, reboot and reinstall failed

Postby konsta » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:38 pm

I had the same problem with the upgrade, everything seemed to run fine, but when I re-opened Outlook (2007 on Vista 32), CC wasn't there. When I checked the addins, there was an entry for CC, but it was on the inactive addin list. I then went to my com addins, saw the CC entry with no check box next to it and checked it. I then saved and exited out of Outlook.

When I got back in, still no cc. I checked addins again and it was still in the inactive application list. I tried checking the box again, which worked, but this time, I didn't exit Outlook, I went directly back into addins and CC was still on the inactive list.

I then went to Programs and Features, saw CC as an entry, I tried to repair it, but it couldn't find a file. So I uninstalled it and then reinstalled v. 4. No errors or problem reported. I opened Outlook and still no CC toolbar. I went back into Trust Center|Addins and saw cc was still on the inactive addin list. I opened my com addins and then deleted the cc entry. I exited Outlook.

When looking at my installed programs, CC v. 4.0 was listed, but when I looked at the source column for it, I saw the file it was looking for was in the same directory that showed up when I tried to repair it earlier (c:\users\...\AppData\Local\Temp\IXP000.TMP\). When I went to my Local\Temp directory, I did not see the subdirectory IXP000.TMP. I left that explorer window open and reran the install.

After the first phase of the installation (file extraction), I was presented with the window asking me to continue with the install. Before I clicked yes, I went back to my local\temp directory and saw IXP000.TMP, which now contained 2 files, clearcontext.msi and setup.exe. I copied those two files to my desktop and then continued with the install. Unfortunately, that didn't work. Now inside Outlook, cc didn't appear anywhere in my addin list.

I then copied the two files (clearcontext.msi and setup.exe) that I put on my desktop into my user directory (c:\users\...\AppData\Local\ClearContext). I reran the setup file from this location, but still no cc. However, this did succeed in changing the source location of my Clear Context entry in the Programs and Features (btw, this is the new name the old Add/Remove Programs in Vista). At least the installed app was now pointing to a file that actually existed.

I went back into Outlook, opened Trust Center|Addins and opened my com addins, still no cc entry. I then clicked Add and navigated to ...\Local\ClearContext and clicked on setup, but that didn't take.

I then reboot the machine and tried installing cc4 again, but no luck. It shows up in my Programs and Features but not inside Outlook. I also disabled all of my other Outlook addins and tried again, but still no luck.

After 3+ hours, I'm going back to the earlier version. I have included all of this here in the event it might help you guys figure out the fix.

---Andrew

P.S. I forgot to mention that I also deleted the temp folder contents before rebooting hoping that might fix something, but still no joy. I did notice one additional weirdness, when I tried to reinstall after removing and rebooting, the installation window aske me if I wanted to "resume" the installation, which wss weird since I (thought) I had completely removed all traces of the former install. I hope this helps.
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Postby brad » Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:08 am

Andrew - Sorry you are having trouble. I think this problem is different than the others listed here. I have sent you detailed instructions for fixing to your registered email address.
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same problem upgrading from v3 to v4 in Vista | Outlook 2007

Postby cmayaud » Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:06 am

am running 32bit Vista Enterprise
outlook 2007 (with exchange)

simple install over v3 didn't work (no "com-in" registers within Outlook to turn on)
uninstalled X 3 with reboot X 3 and reinstall X 3 -- still nothing on the Outlook side
no active sync
all other plug-ins working

cleared out all temp files, etc ... still nothing

2 observations --

1) the uninstaller within windows still seems to "think" clearcontext is installed even after uninstall (I assume this is a registry issue -- need to probably clear out some bad registry entries)

2) the v4 installer starts normally but switches immediately to "RESUME INSTALL" -- so the installer seems to detect something left on the hard drive (not a temp file -- registry again????)

So could you email or at least outline on this forum how to do a COMPLETE MANUAL UNINSTALL (ie where are ALL the files and where are ALL registry entries which can be deleted)

I assume a complete manual uninstall will correct the upgrading issue ... thanks
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Postby brad » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:42 am

cmayaud:

I have sent you the additional information you have requested. Please confirm that this resolves your issue.
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